After the Persian Wars Athens and Sparta became "superpowers" of the Hellenistic world. While Athens was transformed into an extravagant center of culture and intellectualism, Sparta remained focused on their military. The video excerpt above is from a documentary on the rise of ancient Athens under Pericles. 
Pericles rebuilt the Athenian acropolis, which included the Parthenon with Pheidias' Athene Parthenos still intact, and the Erechtheion. However, it was because of these expenditures that the Athenians found themselves underfunded when the war with Sparta began. While the wars came and went, at least some of the beautiful architecture of the Acropolis can still be seen.
Post-War Athens
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SO TRUE!!!! SO TRUE!!!!
I CANNOT HEAR THE INTERVIEW BECAUSE OF THE COMPETING VOICES IN MY HEAD - AND THEY ARE FULL OF HATE HATE HATE!!!!!- BUT I KNOW KAGAN AND MAKARIOS ARE CORRECT IN CLAIMING THAT HISTORICAL CONFLICTS SHED LIGHT ON CURRENT POLITICS!!!!!!!!
LOOK AT HOW THE VIETNAM WAR ILLUMINATES THE OCCUPATION OF IRAQ!!!!!!!
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DEMLIBS WILL NEVER GET THIS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T EVEN THINK!!!!
PLEASE, MAKARIOS, CONTINUE TO EXPOSE THESE COWARDLY LIBTARDS FOR NOT SUPPORTING ANCIENT GREECE!!!!!!!!
BRING ON THE RAPTURE!!!!!!!!!!
"ralph"
Some libtards appreciate this.
(I know. I was suprised too.)
Here is a link to some of their comments.
Hello Mr. P,
I'm still banned from TP. But I was thinking. What do you think about starting our own blog, ThinkConservatively? We can set it up just like TP and post up hard hitting articles about libtards. We could both log in and post up articles. Staff editor 1: Dr. William Dog. Staff editor 2: Mr. President Makarios.
-Dr. Dog
Dr. Dog,
I think that is a great idea! But I don't know how to set it up like they do at TP. These "blogspot" blogs are kind of limited.
DR. DOG!!!!!! MAKARIOS!!!!!!
[SORRY, I MUST STOP TO MAKE SURE THAT I GIVE EACH OF YOU THE SAME QUANTITY OF EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!!! HAVE TO BE FAIR!!!!!!]
THAT IS AN EXCELLENT IDEA!!!!!!!!
YOUR ARTICLES CAN INCLUDE TOPICS LIKE IRAQ AND HOW WMDs WERE ACTUALLY FOUND BUT NOBODY IN THE LIBERAL MSM HAD THE GUTS TO SAY SO; HOW WARRANTLESS WIRETAPPING HAS PROTECTED AMERICANS WITH NOTHING TO HIDE BECUASE THEIR INTERCEPTED COMMUNICATIONS ONLY INCLUDED STUFF ABOUT SHADY BUSINESS DEALS AND EXTRAMARITAL AFFAIRS RATHER THAN TERRORIST ACTS (BUT, ALTHOUGH ROVE KEPT SECRET FILES ON IT ALL, ANYWAY, NOBODY NEEDS TO WORRY); HOW POLITICIZATION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IS NO FREAKING BIG DEAL BECAUSE ANYONE WHO HOPES FOR JUSTICE IN THIS DAY AND AGE IS AN IGNORANT HIPPIE LIBTARD WHO HATES AMERICA'S-GREATEST-PRESIDENT ANYWAY!!!!!!!
YOUR BLOG SITE SOUNDS BRILLIANT!!!!!!!
I HOPE YOU WILL LINK TO AMERICAPHILE SO THAT EVERYONE WHO COMES TO YOUR INSTANTLY-POPULAR SITE CAN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN THE TRUTH AND BE RAPTURED IN THE END TIMES!!!!!!!!!!!
SEND THE LIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Makarios,
Check out setting up a free blog with WordPress.
I have a blog with Blogger and with WordPress, and, generally speaking, I like WordPress better.
In addition, I get double the free "storage space" by setting up blogs with different hosts.
ThinkConservatively does sound like a bit of an oxymoron, but that might be a good thing.
It's better than "Think Regress."
Egg,
I will check out wordpress.
Sergei,
Are you insulting Think Progess?
ThinkRegress is one of the names that we conservatives call TP.
DON'T BE FOOLED, MAKARIOS!!!!!!
WORD PRESS IS ACTUALLY CODE FOR "WICKED PROGRESSIVES"!!!!!!
YOU MIGHT BE PERMITTED TO POST UNDISTURBED FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND THEN MYSTERIOUS EDITS WILL BEGIN AFFECTING YOUR THREADS!!!!!!
GAELIC OBSCURANTISTS WILL HACK INTO YOUR BLOG AND TRANSLATE EVERYTHING INTO IRISH!!!!!!
THE AMERICA-HATE, DRIVE-THRU-HATE, T-SHIRT-HATE, KRISPY-KREME-HATE, FAIR-AND-BALANCED-ACROBATICS-HATE, LUGGAGE-THROWING-HATE, BUZZ-CUT-HATE, COUNTRY-MUSIC-HATE, DEEP-FRIED-TWINKIE-HATE CROWD WILL LAUNCH A FRENZY OF POSTING!!!!!!!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LENGTHS WILL BE UNFAIRLY RESTRICTED!!!!!!!!!!!!
I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF PIAPS HERSELF USES WORD PRESS!!!!!!!!
STAND STRONG, MAKARIOS!!!!!!!!
IF YOU MUST GO TO SOMETHING OTHER THAN BLOGGER, THOUGH, DO NOT DESPAIR!!!!!! I HAVE SWORN TO FOLLOW YOUR INSIGHTS AND WISDOM THROUGH FIRE AND FLOOD, DOUGHNUT-BUMPING AND CROSS-DRESSING, HYMN-YODELING AND SPEAKING IN TONGUES!!!!!!
THIS IS ALL BECAUSE I AM DEVOTED TO YOU AND WANT TO SEE YOU RAPTURED, NOT LEFT BEHIND TO TAKE ON DUBLIN AND ROME AND CLINTOON ALL BY YOURSELVES!!!!!!!!
R O T F L M F A O!!!!!!!!!!!!
I checked out WordPress last night and it seemed even more limited than this. It was better in some respects, some of the basic templates had a more professional look, however with the "blogger" brand blogs you can edit the HTML on the template with the greatest of ease. I'm going to have to learn more about wordpress before I make a decision.
DON'T GIVE IN TO THE PROPAGANDA, MAKARIOS!!!!!!!
WORD PRESS IS AN ORGAN OF THE DEMLIB CONSPIRACY, DESIGNED TO BRING DOWN PATRIOTIC-LEANING BLOGS LIKE YOURS!!!!!!!!
STICK WITH BLOGGER. ALL YOUR BEST BUDDIES ARE HERE ALREADY. IF YOU MOVE TO WORD PRESS YOU WILL ENCOUNTER A COMPLETELY NEW AND HOSTILE CROWD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BESIDES, YOU MIGHT THEN HAVE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT CUSTOMIZING YOUR HTML, AND THAT WOULD BE TRAGIC!!!!!!
STAY HERE WITH YOUR BUDDIES LIKE ME AND MR. P AND KONSERVO, MAKARIOS. WE'LL PROTECT YOU FROM THE NASTY LIBTARD CONSPIRACIES THAT THREATEN YOUR DOMINATION OF THE INTERNET....
I am Mr. President and Konservo, you stooge.
Non ego iam cum huius vita, qua taetrius miserius detestabilius escogitare nihil possum, Platonis aut Archytae vitam comparabo, doctorum hominum et plane sapientium: ex eadem urbe humilem homunculum a pulvere et radio excitabo, qui multis annis post fuit, Archimedem. Cuius ego quaestor ignoratum ab Syracusanis, cum esse omnino negarent, saeptum undique et vestitum vepribus et dumetis indagavi sepulcrum. Tenebam enim quosdam senariolos, quos in eius monumento esse inscriptos acceperam, qui declarabant in summo sepulcro sphaeram esse positam cum cylindro. Ego autem cum omnia conlustrarem oculis—est enim ad portas Agragantinas magna frequentia sepulcrorum -, animum adverti columellam non multum e dumis eminentem, in qua inerat sphaerae figura et cylindri. Atque ego statim Syracusanis—erant autem principes mecum—dixi me illud ipsum arbitrari esse, quod quaererem. lnmissi cum falcibus multi purgarunt et aperuerunt locum. Quo cum patefactus esset aditus, ad adversam basim accessimus. Apparebat epigramma exesis posterioribus partibus versiculorum dimidiatum fere.
Ita nobilissima Graeciae civitas, quondam vero etiam doctissima, sui civis unius acutissimi monumentum ignorasset, nisi ab homine Arpinate didicisset.
Long live the wine and our great President George Walker Bush.
Anonymous said...
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TULLY!!!!!!
How's everything my man!!?!?
Don't worry, I haven't forgot about the important contributions you made to Western Political thought (although you weren't as important as you would like to think... just sayin').
Anyway, it's good to here from you!!
Dionysus said...
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You know what they say...
IN VINO VERITAS!!!!!!
It's an honor to have a God visit! Come back any time!
Hi. I'm back.
I just have a question. I am writing a report and I am just wondering how people remembered all the names of all the gods when they were praying. Did they have a directory? There are so many, wouldn't they get confused? What happens when they pray to the wrong one? Did they get zapped with a bolt of lightening or did something bad happen? This would be so confusing.
Doesn't Mount Olympus with all those gods living on it cut off from all the normal people seem a lot like our White House and President George Bush? He seems pretty cut off from all the normal people too, being all powerful. And just like Zeus, if you cross him he hits you with a bolt of lightening or makes you disappear in one of his secret prisons.
It is kind of scary.
I just have a question. I am writing a report and I am just wondering how people remembered all the names of all the gods when they were praying.
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1) They weren't libtarded.
2) Each temple was devoted to a particular God or Goddess. For example, "The Parthenon" was dedicated to Athene Parthenos (Athene the Virgin).
Different cities and tribes worshipped different Gods and Goddesses. It even varied from family to family, as they believed that they were descended from a particular God or Goddess.
If the gods on Olympus were cut off from the normal people, how did they get married? Were there priests allowed on the Mount Olympus too? Were they living in sin and having children out of real marriage? How could you be a god and live in sin at the same time?
How could you be a god and live in sin at the same time?
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If a God does it, that means it's not a sin.
Did they have gay Greek gods? I know they had gay Romans. I just can't find that stuff in the books.
Did they have gay Greek gods? I know they had gay Romans. I just can't find that stuff in the books.
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Yes, and you can find it in books.
Look up the myth of Apollo and Hyacinth.
I know George Bush isn't a god, but he talks to God and he says God talks to him, so does that mean whatever he does is not sin too? Because when I watch him sometimes he acts like he really is God. Maybe that is why he doesn't worry about sinning when he tells so many lies, because he thinks he is God and if God does it it isn't sin.
Now I get it. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Why have you deleted all my comments?
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You're off topic.
It's been fun, Goddess. But I think you need to read some Thucydides.
So you're the one behind today's little spectacle, willyloman?
I should have known.
No. I wish I could take credit for this one.
I like to Ghost TP every now and then... and you like to talk up this site.
Seems like you got some trolls though.
The Goddess asked a very interesting question there, Mr. P. And I have to admit, I am surprized that you have an article about the contributions of Solon on your site.
Wasn't he a bit "progressive" for your tastes? or are you slipping a bit in your old age?
Wasn't he a bit "progressive" for your tastes? or are you slipping a bit in your old age?
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I'm not going to lie, just so the past is more to my liking. The Greek Gods "raped" men, women, boys, and girls, and Solon was progressive. It's history.
and you like to talk up this site.
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Do I? I've only mentioned it to a few people.
Umbra, Blame Bush, maybe one or two more. That is, unless they come here first and mention something.
There have been alot of "progressive" thinkers in the past, Mr. P.
You don't feature them prominately on your site...
I am wondering, why Solon?
You don't feature them prominately on your site...
I am wondering, why Solon?
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I just started the site, give me time. I'm starting at the beginning and working my way through history. I haven't even reached Plato and Aristotle yet.
Is this like a class project or something, or is there some other connection between Solon and your personal political views?
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No. They don't teach Solon because there isn't much solid information about him. But, from what is known about him, he seems to be the first leader who really listened to the people before he made decisions. He didn't start Democracy but he was a forerunner, so he deserves recognition. However, rulers like Dracon, do not.
Salesman,
Makarios said you were here, so I decided to check it out. Apparently Zooey did too.
Good to hear from you.
Mak, where did the registration go?
I don't know Mr. P... all this "democracy" talk. Are you sure you're Mr. P?
Solon?
"By giving common people the power not only to elect officials but also to call them to account, Solon appears to have established the foundations of a true democracy."
Now, it is arguable as to whether he is being given credit he didn't deserve, but, even you mention his ecconomic reforms, and it is common knowledge that he may have opened up the courts for the common civilian of the time.
Doesn't really hold true to form with all your "libtard" comments on the other site.
I mean, is it the impression of democratic liberty that is supposed to calm the masses, or what?
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Solon was the archon eponymous, period. He had the authority to what what he felt would be best. At the time, poor Athenians were forced to sell their families into slavery because they had fallen deep into debt. Solon's "seisachtheia" freed all who had been enslaved, which was a plus for the people, IMHO. But at the same time it was the aristocrats who really had the political power, because the poor had to work all day and could not always make their voice heard.
Despite all of that, Solon did not establish a true democracy in Athens, he merely paved the way.
I hope Hillary gives us a "seisachtheia".
Egreggious said...
I hope Hillary gives us a "seisachtheia".
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Egg,
You're not a slave.
Well, that is the argument..whether or not he really included common people in the court system and the governing body or not because he was an aristocrat himself. However, doesn't Plutarch write that he did?
And if Plutarch was correct, isn't that a democracy? You yourself mention that he limited land ownership to allow for more landowners and more citizens to have a say in the decisions of their govenment.
I'm not on topic at all.
Zooey
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You're not a random libtard talking about fucking a sheep.
You're not a random libtard talking about fucking a sheep.
That's the nicest thing you've ever said to Zooey.
Hey makarios,
What on Earth did you say to bring on the whatever it was about sheep?
And if Plutarch was correct, isn't that a democracy?
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No, he just did the people a solid. After Solon's rule was over, Pisistratus was tyrant of Athens, then Pisistratus's sons (Hippias and Hipparchus) shared power, etc. etc. It wasn't until the 5th century BCE that Athens became a democracy.
Eggy said:
That's the nicest thing you've ever said to Zooey.
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I'm getting all emotional here....
Zooey
Hello Wayne,
It was totally unprovoked. I was astonished.
All kidding aside, you didn't say somethign on a TP thread that might have been, I don't know, "taken out of context"?
No, Wayne. I think it was the NewsHounds libs.
Hi, willy,
I don't know what he said. That's what I'm trying to find out.
Markarios,
Why NewsHounds? Do you like to post comments there, too?
Why do the libs hate the Peloponnesian War?
Watch it, willy.
Wayne, occasionally, but they also go to Ralph's site and do the same thing. For example, the "ralph" in comment #1 is really a liberal pretending to be ralph.
Egreggious said...
Why do the libs hate the Peloponnesian War?
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As Ralph would say:
"THEY ARE FULL OF HATE HATE HATE!!!!!- BUT I KNOW... MAKARIOS [IS} CORRECT IN CLAIMING THAT HISTORICAL CONFLICTS SHED LIGHT ON CURRENT POLITICS!!!!!!!!"
So this is where everyone went! Hi, everybody! ("Hi, Doctor Nick!")
Hi, PiP! I like the scenery--it reminds me of my college Art History classes. (Well, the classes that I actually WENT to.)
Thanks, Jane.
Mr P,
What's happening to willy's comments?
Zooey
What's happening to willy's comments?
Zooey
They were erased.
So, it was TP libs.
Well, well, well.
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Love and kisses,
Zooey
(aka Cloaca & Meditrina)
Hey, Konservo - how's that cross-dressing gig turning out for you?
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Hey PIP,
what up Dawg!
Hey I bet if the Left was around back then they would be supporting the Persians!
PIP,
Cool site!
What's up, Trajan?
I'm glad you like the site. Also, when I get to the rise of Islam, it would be cool if you told me anything you notice is incorrect or that I left out. Actually, that goes for any of the posts here, as I want the site to be as accurate as possible.
- Mr. President (PiP)
PIP,
Absolutely I'll help you with the rise of Islam.
They destroyed the beautiful Greco-Roman world!
Hey PIP They banned me on TP again.
They're usest I exposed their racism, ignorance of History and support of Radical Islam.
I'll chime in regarding Islam too, though how much depends on whether you focus exclusively on falsafah (which I know very little about) or discuss the religion as a whole (about which I am extremely knowledgeable).
Sergei,
I don't know too much about that either, except that al-Farabi was an avid reader of Aristotle and because of that influence, he (al-Farabi) determined that the best system of government (that is realistic) is a representative democracy. But there is about 1000 years to cover before I get to Islam so hopefully I will have a chance to read more on the subject.
hell yeah!!!!!!!
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